EMRFD Message Archive 10122
Message Date From Subject 10122 2014-07-11 08:10:37 Chris Trask Motorola Application Notes It's been a long time since I've gone looking for PDF copies of the older Motorola application notes. They had been archived by On Semiconductor and Freescale Semiconductor for many years, but now I see that they are no longer available from either of those sites. Have they simply buried them? Are they available elsewhere? I would hate to think that we will be reinventing all sorts of wheels.
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10123 2014-07-11 08:12:41 Jim Strohm Re: Motorola Application Notes If you know the number of the app note or engineering bulletin, you may be able to track them down. I've got archivals of a few of the RF power EBs / ANs, if that's what you're looking for.Jim N6OTQ
7310124 2014-07-11 08:32:45 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >I have the titles and AN numbers from their printed literature catalogues. And I have a printed copy of the one I'm presently interested in (AN421). I'd like to avoid the time and effort of scanning it.
>If you know the number of the app note or engineering bulletin, you may be
>able to track them down. I've got archivals of a few of the RF power EBs /
>ANs, if that's what you're looking for.
>
An online search produces no results, and it appears that both ON and Freescale have scuttled the archives. The last link I have is:
http://www2.hibbertgroup.com/motorola/main?action=hibbertgroup.client.motorola.ui.inventory.InventorySearchController&page=/templates/inventory/inventory_search.jsp&component=inventory&operation=view&status=A
but even the root URL no longer exists.
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10125 2014-07-11 10:26:46 mvs_sarma@ymail.c... Re: Motorola Application Notes Today i got a link
http://k5tra.net/tech%20library/Motorola%20app%20notes/AN593%20BroadbandAmp.pdf
this has openbed up specific application note.10126 2014-07-11 10:45:22 Lasse Moell Re: Motorola Application Notes I found AN421 at archive.org, but it seems their data base is somewhat out of order so if search through Google it will bring up an SCR note. But I then tried to search Brubaker and the title, and got the correct link.
https://archive.org/stream/Motorola-SeminarsandApplicationBooksAN-421SemiconductorNoiseFigureConsiderations#page/n0/mode/2up
BTW this IS a pretty poor scan though.
/Lasse SM5GLC11 juli 2014, Chris Trask christrask@earthlink.net [emrfd]
skrev: >
>If you know the number of the app note or engineering bulletin, you may be
>able to track them down. I've got archivals of a few of the RF power EBs /
>ANs, if that's what you're looking for.
>
I have the titles and AN numbers from their printed literature catalogues. And I have a printed copy of the one I'm presently interested in (AN421). I'd like to avoid the time and effort of scanning it.
An online search produces no results, and it appears that both ON and Freescale have scuttled the archives. The last link I have is:
http://www2.hibbertgroup.com/motorola/main?action=hibbertgroup.client.motorola.ui.inventory.InventorySearchController&page=/templates/inventory/inventory_search.jsp&component=inventory&operation=view&status=A
but even the root URL no longer exists.
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/
10127 2014-07-11 10:51:45 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >He has a very small collection at:
>Today i got a link
>http://k5tra.net/tech%20library/Motorola%20app%20notes/AN593%20BroadbandAmp.pdf http://k5tra.net/tech%20library/Motorola%20app%20notes/AN593%20BroadbandAmp.pdf
>
> this has openbed up specific application note.
>
http://k5tra.net/tech%20library.html
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10128 2014-07-11 11:32:42 Graham Haddock Re: Motorola Application Notes If you are looking for a specific App Note, let me know.Chris:I have a partial collection of some of the RF Power App notes.Helge Granberg, who wrote most of the RF power app notes for Motorola, started
Communications Concepts in his retirement, so many of his app notes are there.--- Graham / KE9H
==10129 2014-07-11 12:30:57 n2msqrp Re: Motorola Application Notes Chris,
What is the title of the AN note? I may have an electronic copy at home.
I was looking at my bookshelf. It's full of TI, National Semicondutor and Motorola catalogs. I was thinking od disposing them because I could get electronic copies of the spec sheets and app notes. I'll have to reconsider now...
Mike N2MS
----- Original Message -----
10130 2014-07-11 14:07:24 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >I'll keep that in mind.
>I have a partial collection of some of the RF Power App notes.
>
>If you are looking for a specific App Note, let me know.
>
>Looked at that one earlier this morning.
>Try:
>http://k5tra.net/tech%20library.html
>
>orI wondered where he had gone off to.
>
>http://www.communication-concepts.com/product-manuals-applications/manuals.html
>
>Helge Granberg, who wrote most of the RF power app notes for Motorola,
>started
>Communications Concepts in his retirement, so many of his app notes are
>there.
>
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10131 2014-07-11 14:10:04 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >Brubaker, "Semiconductor Noise Figure Considerations"
>What is the title of the AN note? I may have an electronic copy at home.
>
>No! Don't thrpw out anything! This stuff is gradually disappearing and people are eventually going to have to reinvent the wheel whether they want to or not.
>I was looking at my bookshelf. It's full of TI, National Semicondutor and Motorola catalogs. I was
>thinking od disposing them because I could get electronic copies of the spec sheets and app notes.
>I'll have to reconsider now...
>
Chris
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
- Hunter S. Thompson10132 2014-07-11 14:43:17 Jim Kortge Re: Motorola Application Notes 10138 2014-07-12 10:42:20 Dave Hartman Re: Motorola Application Notes There are 229 Motorola titles here, but what you see isn't always what
you get...
https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Amanuals-motorola&sort=-publicdate
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73 Dave - AC2GL
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http://www.avast.com10142 2014-07-13 08:17:55 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >Yes, I've seen that site before. It tends to be a bit haphazard.
>There are 229 Motorola titles here, but what you see isn't always what
>you get...
>https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Amanuals-motorola&sort=-publicdate
>
From what I've seen over these past few days, almost the entire lot of Motorola Application Notes has been deleted from the internet, and current manufacturers such as Freescale and ON semiconductor have no interest in preserving their hostories. That's a tremendous loss to the profession and amateur radio alike. I'm going to look through my hard drives and see what I might have, and then through my filing cabinets to look for anything that is scanable. I know that I have a large number of these going back to Day #1.
Chris
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
- Hunter S. Thompson10144 2014-07-14 00:15:13 Stewart@g3ysx.org... Re: Motorola Application Notes Freescale.com->documents->applications notes->archived
has a number going back to the 400s
Stewart/G3YSX
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10145 2014-07-14 06:22:00 G3TGD Re: Motorola Application Notes Hi ChrisThere are some here:RegardsMike G3TGD10146 2014-07-14 09:57:11 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >I will take a very serious look at that later. It may turn out to be the missing treasure trove of documents that I thought were lost.
>Freescale.com->documents->applications notes->archived
>
>has a number going back to the 400s
>
Chris
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
- Hunter S. Thompson10147 2014-07-14 10:00:35 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >Yes, I've seen those and have hem earmarked. If all else fails I'm going to contact him to see if he has any of the others or perhaps knows where they can be found.
>Hi Chris
>
>There are some here:
>
>http://www.communication-concepts.com/product-manuals-applications/manuals.html
>
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10148 2014-07-14 10:37:32 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >I've just been up and down on the Freescale website and I cannot find any tabs at all such as those. There is a "documentation" tab on the top page, but that just leads you to current documents with no mention of an archive. And there are no hits for such a page on any of the search engines. Could you provide the full URL for the "archived" page?
>Freescale.com->documents->applications notes->archived
>
>has a number going back to the 400s
>
Chris
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
- Hunter S. Thompson10149 2014-07-14 10:55:45 Jim Strohm Re: Motorola Application Notes Jim N6OTQIf you want to complain, I may be able to find the CEO's email address.ChrisThe internal architecture of the FSL web page does not allow for static provision of URLs to specific files.
Sorry about that.
7310151 2014-07-14 11:55:43 n2msqrp Re: Motorola Application Notes Chris,
I found some of the Application notes.
- Go to the Freescale Semiconductor home page http://www.freescale.com/
- Select Support and Communities tab.
- Select Documentation
- In the Advanced Search section select Documention Type "Application Notes" and Devices Supported "RF"
Here is the link:
<http://www.freescale.com/search?client=search_documents&site=fsl_en&lang_cd=en&ulang=en&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=search_style_fe&filter=0&getfields=*&rc=1&ie=UTF-8&ulang=en&access=p&sort=date:D:L:d1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&q=+inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF&dnavs=inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF>
Mike N2MS10152 2014-07-14 13:46:09 Dave Daniel Re: Motorola Application Notes The page cited by the directions below is at http://tinyurl.com/pbkwhdk . I'm not sure, though, which notes are Motorola and which are others.
DaveD
10153 2014-07-14 14:25:14 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >That only takes you to the current application notes, not the archived older ones. Try finding something like AN-215.
>The page cited by the directions below is at http://tinyurl.com/pbkwhdk
>. I'm not sure, though, which notes are Motorola and which are others.
>
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10154 2014-07-14 14:39:41 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >Sorry, but there's no "Advanced Search" tab to be found. I did manage to hack my way through this and discovered that what they have done is change the way that each item is documented. You cannot search by way of ANxxx number, but instead have to search by way of the title. It's no wonder that the generic search engines cannot find any of these. The full URL for the RF application otes is:
>I found some of the Application notes.
>
>- Go to the Freescale Semiconductor home page http://www.freescale.com/
>
>- Select Support and Communities tab.
>
>- Select Documentation
>
>- In the Advanced Search section select Documention Type "Application Notes" and Devices Supported "RF"
>
>http://www.freescale.com/search?client=search_documents&site=fsl_en&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=search_style_fe&filter=0&getfields=*&rc=1&ie=UTF-8&ulang=en&access=p&sort=date:D:L:d1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&lang_cd=&ip=205.232.249.149&wc=200&wc_mc=1&q=+inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes&dnavs=inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes>or, on the broader sense that includes all application notes:
<http://www.freescale.com/search?client=search_documents&site=fsl_en&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=search_style_fe&filter=0&getfields=*&rc=1&ie=UTF-8&ulang=en&access=p&sort=date:D:L:d1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&lang_cd=&ip=205.232.249.149&wc=200&wc_mc=1&q=+inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes&dnavs=inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes>
Now that I see how they have put a stranglehold on this so as to make it as difficult as possible, I'm just going to get out the old literature catalogues and download everything I can on the basis of the titles, then arrange them here on the basis of the ANxxx, EBxxx, etc. Anything that I cannot find this way I'll simply find a treeware copy and scan it on my own.
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10155 2014-07-14 15:49:01 Dave Daniel Re: Motorola Application Notes I didn't say what was at the destination URL, I just pointed out how to get to where the previous post referred.
DaveD
10156 2014-07-15 06:18:59 Stewart Bryant Re: Motorola Application Notes 10157 2014-07-15 07:07:36 Gene W5DOR Re: Motorola Application Notes The Motorola app notes I have are on my web at: http://www.w5dor.com/W5DOR-AppNotes.html
If you download the RF manual there are more RF related appnotes listed. However, be aware that downloading one of the manuals is a huge download and takes a while.
Gene, W5DOR
gene@w5dor.com
www.w5dor.com
10158 2014-07-15 07:44:45 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >How strange. I wonder if there is an FTP connection available for that and Freescale?
>>
>>>
>>> The page cited by the directions below is at http://tinyurl.com/pbkwhdk
>>> . I'm not sure, though, which notes are Motorola and which are others.
>>>
>>
>> That only takes you to the current application notes, not the archived older ones. Try
>>finding something like AN-215.
>
>You can get to a bunch of them but seeming not that one.
>
>However that on is here should you need it:
>
>http://api.macom.com/content/applicationnotes/an215a.pdf
>
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10159 2014-07-15 08:02:20 Chris Trask Re: Motorola Application Notes >Thank you for that. Saves me a lot of scanning effort.
>The Motorola app notes I have are on my web at:
>http://www.w5dor.com/W5DOR-AppNotes.html
>
>If you download the RF manual there are more RF related appnotes listed.
>However, be aware that downloading one of the manuals is a huge download and
>takes a while.
>
Chris Trask
N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
Senior Member IEEE
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/10160 2014-07-15 13:15:18 Steve VK2SJA Re: Motorola Application Notes Hi Chris/All,
I've been looking at this one.
From what I can see the current Freescale documents are held at:-
http://www.freescale.com/files/...
The archived files appear to be at:-
http://cache.freescale.com/files/...
In the case of RF related documents they are held in a structure that
looks like:-
/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/
So the complete URL to the directory holding the archived RF App Notes is:-
http://cache.freescale.com/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/
The App Notes have a well defined naming standard:-
AN###.pdf or AN####.pdf
The following Google search will show them:-
site:http://cache.freescale.com inurl:/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/
Just copy all of the above line into the Google search bar. May not be all
documents available perhaps. As this would depend on when Google ran the
index pass. I've got 60 files listed.
Of course a simple Linux bash script of:-
for i in $(seq -w 000 999) ; do
wget http://cache.freescale.com/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/AN${i}.pdf
done
Would go and grab any and all App Notes from 000-999. There are only 9 of
them BTW. Changing 000 999 to 1000 9999 would eventually grab everything
available in the archived cache up to AN9999.pdf (remembering that there
are only 60 or so according to Google search).
But be aware that the Freescale web master *might* consider the script
behaviour above as being anti-social. If s/he was ever to look at the log
files that is ;-)
73, Steve
>>
>>I found some of the Application notes.
>>
>>- Go to the Freescale Semiconductor home page http://www.freescale.com/
>>
>>- Select Support and Communities tab.
>>
>>- Select Documentation
>>
>>- In the Advanced Search section select Documention Type "Application
>> Notes" and Devices Supported "RF"
>>
>
> Sorry, but there's no "Advanced Search" tab to be found. I did
> manage to hack my way through this and discovered that what they have
> done is change the way that each item is documented. You cannot
> search by way of ANxxx number, but instead have to search by way of
> the title. It's no wonder that the generic search engines cannot
> find any of these. The full URL for the RF application otes is:
>
>>http://www.freescale.com/search?client=search_documents&site=fsl_en&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=search_style_fe&filter=0&getfields=*&rc=1&ie=UTF-8&ulang=en&access=p&sort=date:D:L:d1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&lang_cd=&ip=205.232.249.149&wc=200&wc_mc=1&q=+inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes&dnavs=inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:prodTypeCategory%3DRF+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes>
>
> or, on the broader sense that includes all application notes:
>
> <http://www.freescale.com/search?client=search_documents&site=fsl_en&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=search_style_fe&filter=0&getfields=*&rc=1&ie=UTF-8&ulang=en&access=p&sort=date:D:L:d1&entqr=3&entqrm=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&lang_cd=&ip=205.232.249.149&wc=200&wc_mc=1&q=+inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes&dnavs=inmeta:Asset_Type%3DDocuments+inmeta:type%3DApplication%2520Notes>
>
> Now that I see how they have put a stranglehold on this so as to make
> it as difficult as possible, I'm just going to get out the old
> literature catalogues and download everything I can on the basis of
> the titles, then arrange them here on the basis of the ANxxx, EBxxx,
> etc. Anything that I cannot find this way I'll simply find a
> treeware copy and scan it on my own.
>
>
> Chris Trask
> N7ZWY / WDX3HLB
> Senior Member IEEE
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~christrask/
>