EMRFD Message Archive 2957

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2957 2009-04-29 01:24:31 Ashhar Farhan MIT Rad lab journals
My elmer, VU2OZ (Arun Kumar, who also worked on india's first
satellite) has always made stuff easy for me. more than two decades
ago, i got my hands my first ARRL Handbook at his place. he also gave
me my first tube to play with.
When he recently came down to India and i met him after nearly 20
years, he presented me with 2 CDs containing all of MIT Rad Lab's
texts. It is legendary stuff. Full of clear texts that formed the
'first source' of much of our modern day RF technology.
Here are some links on it:

For those who are curious about what MIT was doing in Radiation Labs
in 1940s, here is the wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory

To know about the content of these CDs, read this:
http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html

Surprisingly, these are available from the Internet:
http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530788

- farhan
2959 2009-04-29 06:57:49 Chris Trask Re: MIT Rad lab journals
>
>When he recently came down to India and i met him after nearly 20
>years, he presented me with 2 CDs containing all of MIT Rad Lab's
>texts. It is legendary stuff. Full of clear texts that formed the
>'first source' of much of our modern day RF technology.
>Here are some links on it:
>
>For those who are curious about what MIT was doing in Radiation Labs
>in 1940s, here is the wiki article:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory
>
>To know about the content of these CDs, read this:
>
>http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html
>
>Surprisingly, these are available from the Internet:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530788
>

I was wondering if the MIT RadLab volumes would ever be converted to CDROM. I spent years finding decent copies of that set, one at a time. I still have some extras that I've tried selling but nobody was interested.


Chris

,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and
/ What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications
/ extinct stuff, anyhow? /
\ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY
_
2960 2009-04-29 08:08:55 Howard Weinstein Re: MIT Rad lab journals
Chris et al,

I just checked out the link for the 2 volume MIT Rad Lab CD ROM and you will find that it is OUT-OF-PRINT...

What good does that do us - I wonder if Artech House will publish limited quantities on request?

You used to be able to buy the whole 28 volume MIT Rad Lab set from a book club that advertised in SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN...

72/73 de Howard K3HW

2961 2009-04-29 15:51:27 Lasse Re: MIT Rad lab journals
I bet it's Jim Lawson W2PV who is co-author of volume 24 :) Still
remembering having a QSO with Jim him self, that shows my age I guess!
Is ther any other ham amongst the writers??

Some 15 years ago, at the office, I remember seeing all 28 volumes in
a storage room, I bet someone just dumped the lot...
2971 2009-04-30 07:53:26 Dave Re: MIT Rad lab journals
2975 2009-04-30 21:31:40 Ian White GM3SEK Re: MIT Rad lab journals
Dave wrote:
>
>They're hard to find and tend to be expensive. I found the ones I
>was looking for at Powell's (Technical) Bookstore in Portland,
>Oregon [1].
>
>[1] What? You haven't ever flown across the continent to find a
>book? ;-)
>

Only across the continent? That's short skip!

The first time my wife and I visited the Lewallens, almost the first
thing they asked was: "Do you like bookstores?" Definitely our kind of
people.


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
2977 2009-05-01 15:25:35 chuck adams Re: MIT Rad lab journals
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 01:24:04 Ashhar Farhan wrote:
> My elmer, VU2OZ (Arun Kumar, who also worked on india's first
> satellite) has always made stuff easy for me. more than two decades
> ago, i got my hands my first ARRL Handbook at his place. he also gave
> me my first tube to play with.
> When he recently came down to India and i met him after nearly 20
> years, he presented me with 2 CDs containing all of MIT Rad Lab's
> texts. It is legendary stuff. Full of clear texts that formed the
> 'first source' of much of our modern day RF technology.
> Here are some links on it:
>
> For those who are curious about what MIT was doing in Radiation Labs
> in 1940s, here is the wiki article:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory
>
> To know about the content of these CDs, read this:
> http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html
>
> Surprisingly, these are available from the Internet:
> http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530
>788
>
> - farhan

Farhan,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your post.

Would you please check the first volume and the copyright.
This set of books was placed in the public domain by MIT and it would
be interesting to see if that information is contained on the CDs.

FYI

chuck


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chuck.adams.k7qo@gmail.com
http://www.k7qo.net/
2978 2009-05-01 15:45:29 Dan Rae Re: MIT Rad lab journals
chuck adams wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 01:24:04 Ashhar Farhan wrote:
>
>> My elmer, VU2OZ (Arun Kumar, who also worked on india's first
>> satellite) has always made stuff easy for me. more than two decades
>> ago, i got my hands my first ARRL Handbook at his place. he also gave
>> me my first tube to play with.
>> When he recently came down to India and i met him after nearly 20
>> years, he presented me with 2 CDs containing all of MIT Rad Lab's
>> texts. It is legendary stuff. Full of clear texts that formed the
>> 'first source' of much of our modern day RF technology.
>> Here are some links on it:
>>
>> For those who are curious about what MIT was doing in Radiation Labs
>> in 1940s, here is the wiki article:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory
>>
>> To know about the content of these CDs, read this:
>> http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html
>>
>> Surprisingly, these are available from the Internet:
>> http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530
>> 788
>>
>> - farhan
>>
>
> Farhan,
>
> Sorry for the delay in responding to your post.
>
> Would you please check the first volume and the copyright.
> This set of books was placed in the public domain by MIT and it would
> be interesting to see if that information is contained on the CDs.
>
>
I have Vol 2 in front of me and it clearly states: "Copyright, 1947, by
the McGraw-Hill Book Company".

I suspect the usual laws apply against copying...

dr
2988 2009-05-06 07:41:11 Weddig, Henning-C... Re: MIT Rad lab journals
Chris,

look at ebay, item 220407627523

Radiation Laboratory Series #8 Principles of Microwave

Henning Weddig
DK5LV

Chris Trask schrieb:
>
>
>
>
> >
> >When he recently came down to India and i met him after nearly 20
> >years, he presented me with 2 CDs containing all of MIT Rad Lab's
> >texts. It is legendary stuff. Full of clear texts that formed the
> >'first source' of much of our modern day RF technology.
> >Here are some links on it:
> >
> >For those who are curious about what MIT was doing in Radiation Labs
> >in 1940s, here is the wiki article:
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory>
> >
> >To know about the content of these CDs, read this:
> >
> >http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html
> <http://web.mit.edu/klund/www/weblatex/node7.html>
> >
> >Surprisingly, these are available from the Internet:
> >
> >http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530788
> <http://www.amazon.com/M-I-T-Radiation-Laboratory-Volumes-Cd-Roms/dp/1580530788>
> >
>
> I was wondering if the MIT RadLab volumes would ever be converted to
> CDROM. I spent years finding decent copies of that set, one at a time. I
> still have some extras that I've tried selling but nobody was interested.
>
> Chris
>
> ,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and
> / What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications
> / extinct stuff, anyhow? /
> \ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY
> _
2989 2009-05-06 07:44:51 Chris Trask Re: MIT Rad lab journals
>
>Chris,
>
>look at ebay, item 220407627523
>
>Radiation Laboratory Series #8 Principles of Microwave
>

Nice. I've been trying to sell my extra copies for less than that, but no takers.


Chris

,----------------------. High Performance Mixers and
/ What's all this \ Amplifiers for RF Communications
/ extinct stuff, anyhow? /
\ _______,--------------' Chris Trask / N7ZWY
_
2994 2009-05-07 07:53:42 Ashhar Farhan Re: MIT Rad lab journals
i did a bit of detective work.
the pdf's have been generated by www.mit.edu/libraries.
there is no mention of electronic copyright on these. so, i would
guess that the copyright title for these cds is in public domain.

i am writing to my old friend and a partner in other crimes (like
indexing south asian books), james nye to help me track them down in
mit's own archives and figure out the nature of their copyright. if
permitted, i am willing to host these archives on my mng qth web
servers.

- farhan

2995 2009-05-07 13:30:09 Howard Weinstein Re: MIT Rad lab journals
Ashhar et al;

The copyright on the MIT Rad Lab series expired around 1957 or 1958 exactly 10 years ofter the books were published. There is a statement in one of the books (which one I cannot remember) stating that the work in these volumes was to enter the public domain 10 years after they were published. Most of the series was published between 1947 and 1948. Therefore they ALL entered the public domain by 1958 AT THE LATEST.

Artech Books has the entire 28 book series on a 2 volume CD.
The published price is $435.00 but if you email Mr. Bazzy he will quote a price of $199.00... Here is a copy of an email from him:

Mr. Weinstein, The complete set is on 2 CDs which we are selling for $199. You can call our customer service line at 781 769 9750. Best regards. Bill Bazzy Publisher

It always pays to ask!!!

de Howard K3HW

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