EMRFD Message Archive 13488

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13488 2017-01-20 18:15:32 bob_ledoux Where is Everybody?
I'm a member of 14 different Yahoo ham homebrew sites and only qrp-tech is showing real activity. The Bitx20 group left Yahoo, r2pro is quiet, norcalqrp ditto.

Have people left to do their taxes? 

Its winter, we should have hot soldering irons and ever hotter construction projects.


13489 2017-01-21 07:37:40 Bob Re: Where is Everybody?
I am not sure what happened completely but, the problems at Yahoo have driven may groups to other servers.  I cannot recall the name of it but I will let you know here, if I learn anything more.

13490 2017-01-21 07:47:00 Bob Re: Where is Everybody?
One of my former Yahoo groups has moved here:   QRPLabs@groups.io

Bob WA2I

13491 2017-01-21 08:00:26 Jim Leslie Re: Where is Everybody?

13492 2017-01-21 08:58:51 peter_dl8ov Re: Where is Everybody?
In my case I'm getting up at 05:30 and leaving the house at 06:00, getting back home anytime between 19:00 and 20:30 five days a week. When you take into account the other demands of life that doesn't leave much time for ham radio right now.

The good news? The job is enough to keep a smile on my face most of the time and it's the most fun I've ever had with my clothes on :)

Peter DL8OV
13493 2017-01-21 09:47:49 Ashhar Farhan Re: Where is Everybody?
bitx20 migrated to groups.io a few weeks. it was entirely painless. the migration copied everything here, added all the members properly. 

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13494 2017-01-21 22:14:44 Mvs Sarma Re: Where is Everybody?
Hi, You could activate them by posting enthusiastic proposals  and experiences.
Perhaps it is more dependent on members than the site itself.

all the best of 2017

13495 2017-01-22 05:21:55 Bob Re: Where is Everybody?
Hello all - 

I have been enjoying the content on this list for its high level content and the wealth of experience of its members.

I know little about the plans yahoo has for the many groups that it hosts, but the winds seem to be pointing us away from Yahoo.  I am not sure who runs this list and know nothing about its administration.  However, we may need to make a plan to move, and should certainly consider archiving the valuable material collected here should Yahoo become no more.  

I am not sure how to make the transition, but groups.io seems to work well for other groups.  I regret I nothing about other options or how to make a transition.  I do note that there is a short "how to" to migrate from Yahoo and it appears to be much simpler than I would have imagined.  It looks to be completely automated.  

See here for the 3 (to 4) step instructions:

13496 2017-01-22 10:22:48 Paul Chebi Re: Where is Everybody?
The move is ti "groups dot io"

Paul Chebi kk4ptv
13497 2017-01-22 20:18:44 bob_ledoux Re: Where is Everybody?
My questions, "Where is Everybody?"  was intended to ask about projects currently within the EMRFD Yahoo group.  It was not intended to spark a conversation about moving to an alternate site.

If the Yahoo system becomes in  jeopardy, or if lack of site maintenance makes it difficult to remain here, I would support a move.  But the files and photos are important to me.

Then there is the question: "Who has to do the work to make such a move?"  Its not my job to volunteer others.

13498 2017-01-22 20:29:50 Dana Myers Re: Where is Everybody?
13499 2017-01-23 11:01:53 Andy Re: Where is Everybody?
   "If the Yahoo system becomes in  jeopardy ... I would support a move.  But the files and photos are important to me."

I saw a handful of groups migrate to "groups.io" over the last month, not by opening a new group and closing the old one, but by migrating the entire group.  Groups.io makes it fairly painless.  To answer your question, "Who has to do the work?", it takes very little work.

All the Messages, all the Photos, all the Links, and all the Files are preserved!

I don't have a handle on the new user interface yet, so to me it "seems" very different as if something is missing.  But it's all there.

But something that apparently does not survive the move, are the subscribers who are "Bouncing".  Bouncing means Yahoo doesn't send them emails anymore.  However, there can be several group members who access a group from the web only, and their "Bouncing" status makes no difference to them.  So the fact that they don't survive the move from Yahoo to Groups.io, if true, would not be a good thing.  Perhaps that is an option when the Moderators start the transfer?

In two other groups where I co-moderate, somewhere around 20-25% of members are "Bouncing".  I think that's fairly typical.

(hoping for more time to tinker around with my soldering iron)